[NOTE: Poster's details obscured.] From: ExScio-Kid (********) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Scientific American on false memories Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 09:39:20 GMT Organization: None Lines: 56 Message-ID: <********> References: <5umo58$ddc@nntp02.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 cultxpt@primenet.com wrote: > The September issue of Scientific American has a great article on >how false memories can be easily instilled in people. I think this >has improtance here because auditing involves having a person go back >through his/her life looking for bad past experiences. The auditor is >not supposed to evaluate what memories the pc digs up. In other >words, there is no concern in Dianetics or Scientology whether the >memories are real or not. Very pertinent point, this one. As in "if the pc says so, it is". Don't invalidate or evaluate the pc's data. This naturally opens up a whole fantasy area to be 'handled' ==> mucho auditing/training and therefore bucks. > Dianetics and Scientology to me are bogus therapies for this >reason. It is quite probable to me that auditing often involves false >memories that have been suggested by Hubbard's writings and by courses >taken in Scientology. Were you really a military commander on the >planet Zorgon 20 million years ago? If your mind thought that up and >you believe it, the e-meter could well confirm it. > I don't think a therapy that is BASED on unsubstantiated past >events is useful therapy. And I also think that it could skew a >person's view of reality to a dangerous level. > Anyone that has been around $cio for any length of time has witnessed exactly this as a commonplace thing. People in abject fear of imagined past 'crimes', and the terror of being denied 'the bridge' as the only way to handle these 'crimes'. Of all of the Co$'s vicious and nasty practices, I still consider this to be the worst; the creating and exploiting fears of some spiritual abyss. I can still recall my own teenage years when I was literally sweating and shaking in bed as the result of such 'counselling'. And I still see similar behaviour in other younger members of our family ! That is why I continue to consider the Co$ to be evil, despite Diane's often sneering, jeering comments about people objecting to the "eeeevil" Scientologists. As informed and literate and objective (and even admired at times by me) as she is, she just doesn't know how this *exactly* constitutes brainwashing/mind-control (as intuitively understood by people). Oh, it's evil stuff alright. It's sadistic in that it deliberately encourages and guides people to debase themselves to such an extent that they can then only see the abuser as saviour. Typically, LRH was very much aware of the mechanism and wrote about it at length. He called it suppressive behaviour, as used by full-track degraded beings - psyches and high-priests. He was damn good at sleight-of-hand, this asshole of assholes.